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I guess you would have to wait until the super 14 is done and see what young players shine through from that then maybe give them some game time during the 4 nations then take them on the tour of Europe.
A back up for Carter and Richie are needed for sure
That was what tours used to be about.
I take what Capedcrusader says but rugby is now a professional sport. When top players get offered enough dosh they will leave so I think coaches need to think of the future not holding on to the past.
I am looking at this from the prospective of a person who's favourite sport is basketball a sport that has been professional for a long time and the way coaches in the NBA build teams is by constantly introducing young players around veteran players. Coaches in the NBA are not the most sentimental lot as well but it is the way to build a dynasty.
I'm sure there are many rugby people that will not agree but I to want the ABs to keep winning. To tell the truth the world cup does not worry me to much but you don't want to see the ABs go through long slumps like Many of the other teams..
Posted 21:07 26th March 2012
Re "How much do we want to keep winning RIGHT NOW vs wanting to build up over the next four years?"
Thats the thing with us - we set the marker each and every year. The jersey comes first which feeds the results. We're not like Oz or SA where they lose to Scotland, Samoa etc. There is no such mantra of "what we want". We MUST respect what others have brought before - success and ALWAYS success. The only time we haven't was to SA in the last 3N's and it feels like we cheapened the fern. It's most likely why we came 2nd
Posted 13:31 22nd March 2012
Read a few comments here about bringing back tours... at least England is touring SA this year with 3 matches, so that's a start!
Posted 12:37 22nd March 2012
Interested to know who you think should be blooded and, perhaps more importantly, who should be left behind from the current crop?
I think there is only a handful of players who are not going to be able to make it through to 2015... so with that in mind there are a few tough decisions to be made.
A Williams, Mealamu, Hore, C Smith, Nonu, Cowan, Piri... plus Richie and DC. All good/great players right now... but will they still be up to it in 2015? How much do we want to keep winning RIGHT NOW vs wanting to build up over the next four years?
Personally I feel that other than those who DEFINITELY won't be there (probably only Hore in that bracket really?) you persist with them for now as long as their form is good.
Interested to see what you think.
p.s. I am definitely trying to get tickets to taht Wales game. Haven't been able to see an ABs test for a couple of years up here...
Posted 17:33 21st March 2012
@ mayhem - I agree. To be the best, you have to beat the best. And to even be considered as a proper "rugby power", they have to play and beat Aus and NZ (and, preferably, SA. But that's not available).
@ TotalRugbyRules - if you're right, Argentina and Samoa will prove suitably physical warm-up matches for them. The Argentine forwards are always a handful and we know what the Samoans can do with ball in hand.
Posted 15:57 21st March 2012
Don't be silly of course the millenium will be full for NZ. They're the Allblacks for christ's sake
Posted 07:51 21st March 2012
melkdave the welsh need a change in mentality ... none of the big 3 SH teams would consider Argentina & Samoa (outside of the RWC & away from home) tough games.
They would expect to beat both teams by at least 20 points & in the case of the ABs 30 points as stats over the last 10 or even 20 years show. Granted NZ followed by Aus is a tough ask, but not so demanding when you consider what it took to compete in and win the 3N (with the vastly more difficult task of winning in places such as Sydney, Auckland, CHCH, Dunedin, & "the Republic").
Wales have some depth in their squad, are extremely fit, play a great team game ... so I think the time is right for them to put away teams like Argentina & Samoa with ease, at least at home and not use that as an excuse if they lose to the big 3 from the SH.
Wales definitely has the potential to beat the ABs esp if they get dominance in the scrums & lineouts. I myself who along with my brothers tried to emulate Welsh backline greats from the past are delighted that once again they are a major player in intl rugby. Can't wait till Nov.
Posted 05:40 21st March 2012
I think NZ will use this tour to blood some youngsters so a good chance at home for wales. Saying that if they don't you really have to wonder when they will. All in Wales advantage pressures on them really.
Posted 18:19 20th March 2012
As boring as it may seem for the rest of the world, Wales are only going to get better constantly playing the best. And that is the Top 3 SH teams by a distance. Argentina and samoa always provide an excellent challenge too, worthy of their great countries. Just hope we can finally end this NZ hoodoo, surely they must be bored of beating us by now! :)
Posted 14:25 20th March 2012
Thats a tough aurtum schedual i to would have prefered SA to Australia .Hopfully Australia will be looking for revenge after losing a test series in the summer
Posted 13:47 20th March 2012
A bit concerned about Wales playing Samoa a week before New Zealand - they'll be out to take our scalps after their World Cup loss against us (but quite literally !!!).
That mobile cryotherapy chamber will be in over-drive during and after that match.
Posted 10:21 20th March 2012
International rugby schedules are woeful. So predictable, worthless, pointless. Get rid of the world cup and replace it with a world series and defo bring back tours. International Rugby Boards are utter jokes full of and run by clueless muppets
Posted 09:31 20th March 2012
Would have liked to see how Wales coped with the physicality of South Africa rather than Australia. How many times do they have to play them this year?!
Posted 09:26 20th March 2012
Wales will have played Australia 6 times in a just over a year!
Little wonder the tickets are 20% cheaper than the NZ fixture!
£75 for a middle tier ticket for NZ!
Argentina £30 adult, Junior £10,Samoa 25/10.
At least these may get a decent crowd because of the prices.
Posted 08:08 20th March 2012
What's that.... 6 times in just over a year. Aussie lead 2 - 0. Do they get to take Wales grand slam by right if they win all 6?
Posted 07:29 20th March 2012
so wales play aus 4 times this year, how.............. BORING!
Posted 18:51 19th March 2012