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- Italy Fixtures
| Fixture | Details |
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| International Match | |
| Saturday , June 22 | |
| Scotland vs Italy | 14:15 |
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- Italy Results
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| Saturday , June 15 | |
| Samoa 39 - 10 Italy |  |
| Saturday , June 8 | |
| South Africa 44 - 10 Italy | |
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- Table
| Pos | Team | P | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | England | 0 | 0 |
| 2 | France | 0 | 0 |
| 3 | Ireland | 0 | 0 |
| 4 | Italy | 0 | 0 |
| 5 | Scotland | 0 | 0 |
| 6 | Wales | 0 | 0 |
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Comments
Lucasrg says...
@macte
Well said.
In Italy there is a system where basically the federation sends their agents around the country and check club's U20 or even U16, and if they see some big teenagers, they go to a sort of "priority list", so they can track them, no matter how skilled they are.
Just as you said a S. Williams coulnd never play, in fact we got a winger (Venditti) that is 111Kg and not impressive at all at the moment
Not even thinking of a Halfpenny at 15!
In fact I want Gatland to coach Italy ffs!!!! he is the best "scout" coach in the last 10 years.
Posted 21:45 01st March 2012
Carpelone says...
I think the problem is psychological. Italy were happy with their first half display and they did believe that the task for the day was accomplished.
When you enter the pitch like this, it then becomes also physical.
The old good school theory says that you have to have two players for each role, this is why their forwards are good. The irony is that all the youngsters had decent games (Gori, McLean, Benvenuti, Venditti) while Masi was poor and Botes can not play fly-half.
I would rather go with the more reliable Burton (even though he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer) and try to nurture and develop the young breed. There is not a short term solution to Italy's fly half conumdrum, so it is better to accept it and work with the Celtic League's franchises for a medium term development.
Posted 14:04 28th February 2012
j615 says...
Not sure where Italy go from here and its a very tough ask for Brunel. The team seemed to be going round and round in circles. The players really let down their coach and their fans with that capitulation in the second half. If some players don't have the motivation to try for 80 minutes then they don't deserve to wear the jersey. Players over the years like Troncon, Castro, Parisse, the Bergamascos and Checchinato would give everything for Italy. Its time to restore some pride.
I hope they give Wales a good game but I fear for Italy in that match. There is a chance of redemption in the final match against Scotland. Italy always seem more confident against Scotland but the Scots are definitely on the rise. Hopefully more and more decent players come through and play in the Celtic League over the coming years.
Posted 23:44 27th February 2012
melkdave says...
@Macte
You are spot on m8 first you identify the good ball players and give them technique .Modern training programmes will get them fit and bulk them up .That said its been 10 yrs or so and still no longterm Italain 10 has been found or groomed something needs to change with theUItalian youth system it just isnt working imo a 10 should have been found groomed and given a chance by now and by chance i mean more than one season to see what he can do
Posted 20:12 27th February 2012
macte says...
Sorry, Evoc, it's not at all a physical matter. It's knowing what rugby really is: a tactical game where, to apply your tactics, you must have technical and physical qualities. In Italy it's exactly the other way round.
All this talking about having to be big and strong to play rugby is the key to all Italian recent failures.
A champion as Shane Williams wouldn't have been able to play for Italy!
In Italy, when they see a kid bigger than most of his peers, they try to make a player out of him. Only size matters.
The right thing should be choosing kids who know what they're doing on the pitch and teach them the correct techique and grow them physically.
I think us Italians are still going to live many years of disappointments.
By the way, this wrong idea on rugby is what keeps many kids from even trying to play.
Posted 13:03 27th February 2012
APV1 says...
What did he say to them at half time? Perhaps that might give him a clue...
Posted 12:46 27th February 2012
DBRowan says...
Same old Italy apparently. Tough and capable of giving anyone a run for it in Rome but content to get run ragged away. Take last year, two close defeats to Wales and Ireland in Rome with a win over France. Away on the other hand they get a 59 point thrashing from England and lose to Scotland by 20 (tough to do). This year the same thing; lopsided away scorelines, close home.
Posted 19:25 26th February 2012
carpelone says...
Drop Botes now and for all. Do not listen to all Treviso's s@#?t.
Semenzato was a mess when he came in, Masi was extremely poor.
Follow the example of Wales, get rid of those old farts and give the young a run.
Posted 17:10 26th February 2012
westywales says...
You know what really grinds my gears? When the media use the word 'Slams' in a headline relating to a player/coach/whoever giving a genuine, reasonable and quite ordinary comment on a performance. Cheap sensationalism. Apart from that, PR, I think your website's ace. Honest.
Posted 13:03 26th February 2012
evoc says...
It's a physical matter. There's no way to win games without no run, no kicks, no ideas. We need much more work!!!
Posted 12:15 26th February 2012